I’m seeing everything with tourist eyes. Mum, dad and I drove 20 minutes to our usual “Asian hangout”. You know the type — Chinese, Vietnamese and Malaysian restaurants on every corner, bakeries full of exotic treats, crammed Asian grocery stores, overflowing fruit/meat/seafood stores…
I started seeing photo opportunities everywhere. “Gee, if we were visitors here we’d buy that at that price,” I thought. I noticed the languages and accents. I paid attention to the composition of ethnicities. (I was confused for a while why there seemed to be so many Anglo white men in the Asian grocery stores. Then I found that inevitably, they were attached to an Asian woman. Now there’s a long blog entry — Why do we find more Anglo white male/Asian female couples than we do Asian male/Anglo white female ones in Australia? )
We walked into a shopping complex and our ears were assaulted by unintelligible shouting. The fruiterers at store A were hawking their wares. I could be charitable and say their shouting was unintelligible because it was in Vietnamese but I am more convinced that they weren’t bothering to form actual words.
The fruiterers at a store across the walkway occasionally tried shouting too but they were drowned out.
What a racket! I asked mum and dad if it was always this noisy. No, they told me. It’s only since Fruiterer A set up shop here. We’ve seen Fruiterer A at the fruit markets. They seems to have brought over their market-style advertising to this shopping centre. Fruiterer B feels very threatened by this change.
Poor Fruiterer B! I will buy my fruit and vegies from store B, rather than store A. I don’t like bullies.
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*** Updated *** mr joel pointed out there was nothing offensive about writing “white” instead of specifying Anglo-Saxon. I was just worried about “white male” being misinterpreted as an albino male.
Why do you refer to Anglo/Asian couples Joan? I mean, you could be talking about specifically Asian female and English male couples, but I assume you’re referring to white males in a broader sense. I’ve got nothing against being p.c, but should we sacrifice correctness for political correctness? And who exactly is going to be offended by being called white?
Posted by mr joel
You commented on white male/Asian female couples being more common than Asian male/white female couples in Australia.
Are you saying that the numbers are more equal elsewhere (since you’ve just been travelling), or are you just commenting on Australia because you don’t feel you’re “qualified” to comment on anywhere else?
Posted by Vera
I worte it because of reason 2 — that my experience is limited to Australia. Really, I should have written “Melbourne”.
However, my gut feeling is that it’s the same all over the world. Dunno why.
In a way, I feel sorry for Chinese males. Thare are more of them than Chinese females and all the white boys are taking them away :)
Posted by joanium
Hah, that is so true! I think it is because a white guy will see an Asian girl and think they are exotic, cute, short etc.
Whereas a white girl more than likely look at Asian guys and think FOB, too short, not “macho” enough etc etc I don’t know not a white girl ^_~ Maybe an Asian guy don’t feel like adapting or changing to fit into typical skip family, whereas Asian girl is more likely? Maybe Asian girls are sick of the typical Asian guy? *hands up*
By the way these are seriously over generalized assumptions, and for the first bit I asked my skip boyfriend >_< – lainey Posted by Ee Leng
It’s coz white males are hornier, and are willing to be fake enough to get any kind of girl
you see white males go
1/ white females (duh)
2/ black females
3/ asian females
4/ any female who looks good
black males go for
1/ black women
2/ white women (no asian women, hardly)
asian males go for
1/ asian women
I guess white males are just freer
Posted by Anonymous
“It’s coz white males are hornier”
Actually, I believe it’s black males who have most testosterone (which, as far as I understand, is what makes them ‘horniest’), followed by white, followed by Asians. Incidentally, I think black women also have the most sex hormones, followed by white women, followed by Asian women.
Here’s an extract from a website — it’s not where I first read about this though:
Race differences exist in sexual behavior. The races differ in how often they like to have sexual intercourse. This affects rates of sexually transmitted diseases. On all the counts, Orientals are the least sexually active, Blacks the most, and Whites are in between…
The races differ in their level of sex hormones. Hormone levels are highest in Blacks and the lowest in Orientals…
The races also differ in testosterone level which helps to explain men’s behavior . In one study of college students, testosterone levels were 10 to 20% higher in Blacks than in Whites. For an older sample of U.S. military veterans, Blacks had levels 3% higher than Whites (see the 1992 issue of Steroids). In a study of university students, Black Americans had 10 to 15% higher levels than White Americans. The Japanese (in Japan) had even lower levels…[Race, Evolution, and Behavior]The site also says that there’s a difference in attitude towards sex, with blacks being most “permissive”, followed by whites, followed by Asians.
Also, it seems that blacks are perceived to be the most masculine, followed by whites, with Asians being perceived as the most feminine (both males and females). [http://austin.che.name/docs/gender.pdf]
Maybe it’s that women are attracted to men who are more masculine, and men are attracted to women who are more feminine. But the relationships only work if they’re not too sexually incompatible.
Also, I think we can assume that in general, in each race the men are more masculine and the women are more feminine. 🙂 (But I wouldn’t know how to compare, say, black women and white men…)
So, maybe even though black men are most masculine, and Asian women are most feminine, being on opposite ends of the sex drive/attitude scale is why they don’t get together often. So black men might go for black women or white women, depending on how they balance sexual compatibility and femininity.
Then, white men go for white women and Asian women because black women are too masculine for them.
Which leaves Asian men with just Asian women.
And I guess maybe it kind of works the same for women.
So, black women are most likely to find black men attractive because they’re most likely to be more masculine than they are. They also have similar sex drives/attitudes.
White women go for black men and white men…
Asian women go for white men and Asian men, but not black men because of sex drive/attitude polarity.
Hmm, does this make sense? (Sometimes when I think too much I confuse myself.)
Posted by Vera
that makes no sense… I’ll go for anyone and I’m horny all the time (just ask anyone who I’ve travelled with)
maybe I’m some kind of freak asian male
Posted by Daniel
interesting post vera
Would it be safe to assume that the initial attraction between two people is more dependent on masculinity/femininity than on sex drive/attidude (as you tend to discover the latter only after you’ve had sex with them)? And could we then assume that the long yerm survival of a relationship is dependent (in part) on sexual compatibility (ie sex drive/attitude)?
The consequence of this would be that although white male/asian female couples are more common due to a strong initial attraction, white female/asian male couples (when they occur) would have a better chance of success due to a more closely matched sexual drive.
Does anyone have any evidence of this being true or false?
Posted by mr joel
I know several Asian girls who can’t stand Asian guys, and are determined not to have anything to do with them!
Alternately, I also know an Asian guy who likes blondes. And has been going out with one for 2-3 years.
=)
Posted by Sally
As you can tell, I am a Banana (yellow on the outside, white on the inside). I seem to be interested in Eggs (white on the outside, yellow on the inside). The yellow-on-the-inside probably correlates to geekiness, geekiness being an Asian trait.
(I wonder if my whiteness on the inside is still more yellow than an Egg’s yellowness? Is an egg more Asian than me?)
I have trouble figuring out why. I don’t think physical attraction accounts for it. I’m almost certain it’s because I feel more comfortable with the Australian/western mindset and attitudes. That means that I might like another Banana.
It could also be a language thing. You may or may not be able to tell from my blog, but I like to talk a lot 😛 I believe I feel stressed if I spent a lot of time with someone I didn’t communicate fluently and freely with. So subconsciously, an Asian accent (or African or whatever) may put me off.
I was thinking this while I was in Taiwan. If I had stayed and grown up in the culture with the language, I don’t think I would have dated westerners.
This is an interesting topic and deserves to have a blog entry for itself.
Posted by joanium
HAH! I stumbled across this blog and I think this is an interesting topic! but i think i have the answers, but if you don’t want to be insulted.. don’t read on!
Okay statistically, asian girls are smarter than white girls (blonde bimbo being a stereotypical image). This results in
1/ Asian guys being unattracted to white girls because, asian guys don’t want dumb girls
2/ White guys being attracted to any girl because, white guys don’t care about intelligence, as long as they’re pretty.
If an asian guy meets a smart white girl, and she is also pretty, he’ll fall for her no questions asked. And if she is smart and sophisticated, she’ll may not want her jocky guy friends and will respond to a sophisticated asian. but how often does this happen?
Me, being an asian guy, I feel no attraction to white women at all. I can’t stand them some times as they speak so dumb (not language, but content), but when i do (and some times do) come across the sexy intelligent white female, then heck yeah i’ll like em.
White guys make good sweet talkers. They can talk their way through lots of things (good business and salesmen) and can make the girl (asian or not) feel appreciated, in their own fake and selfish way. We quite often see many white males with asian girls who can’t speak english to save their lives. How true is such a relationship when they can’t communicate properly? And how often do we see any other combination of ratial pairs that in the same boat?
White females are as good as white males in their sweet talking, but they have one big thing stopping them. they’re usually b*tches who can’t get enough of themselves..
Of course this is only a generalisation, and when it comes to a different set of people (like geeks) then none of this applies.
Posted by Anonymous